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Det visar sig att flygplanet Il-22, vilket används som stridsledningscentral, hade tio besättningsmedlemmar. Samtliga är döda. Vilken maskirovka!dr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑söndag 25 juni 2023 0:02 Fler än jag tror att att allt detta var maskirovka:
Den nya axeln Lukasjenka-Prigozjin kan närma sig Kina, men det land som lierar sig med Prigozjin leker med elden!Al Jazeera skrev:Prigozhin’s African connections could prove useful to Lukashenko in his own dealings with China, which have already brought in trade preferences and multibillion-dollar credits.
These connections could also be useful to Beijing as it boosts its clout in Africa further, Igar Tyshkevich, a Belarusian analyst based in Kyiv, said in televised remarks.
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Any future conflicts between Prigozhin and Putin’s allies will backfire on Lukashenko.
Antalet visuellt bekräftade ryska förluster uppgår nu till 10 869 enheter, varav 2 070 stridsvagnar. Förr eller senare tar den sovjetiska utrustningen slut:
Flera ammunitionsförråd har exploderat i Bulgarien på sistone. Nu tryter tålamodet. Alla vet nämligen vem som är ansvarig för explosionerna...Bloomberg skrev:Bulgaria’s new government will seek to eliminate intermediaries in providing weaponry to Ukraine to boost military support to Kyiv in a shift from the stance of previous cabinets and the country’s president.
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“Only the children that never watch TV haven’t understood that we export ammunition for Ukraine,” Defense Minister Todor Tagarev, who took office three weeks ago, told reporters on Tuesday. “That was done semi-secretly, which required intermediaries.”
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Bulgaria is also seeking to join other EU countries in joint purchases of ammunition, as well as to find EU funding to modernize its state-owned factories so that it could produce weaponry that meets modern NATO standards.
Ja, men vems? Vem lurade (eller trodde sig lura) vem ? Som sagt: viewtopic.php?p=414399#p414399Enceladus skrev: ↑tisdag 27 juni 2023 23:56Det visar sig att flygplanet Il-22, vilket används som stridsledningscentral, hade tio besättningsmedlemmar. Samtliga är döda. Vilken maskirovka!dr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑söndag 25 juni 2023 0:02 Fler än jag tror att att allt detta var maskirovka:
Belarus Wants Prigozhin’s ‘Wagnerites’ To Train Its Armydr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑tisdag 27 juni 2023 23:43 Och såhär "analyserar" den feta skurken Lukasjenko situationen: Lukashenko calls to cool down after Wagner situation, turn page
Sedan pratar han en del strunt om de kärnvapen han har "fått": Belarus to work out procedure for using tactical nukes in face of aggression
The War Zone har en bättre artikel om mötet mellan de två råskinnen - och struntpratet om kärnvapen.The War Zone skrev:“Yes, indeed, he is in Belarus today,” Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko said Tuesday during a speech after a military promotion ceremony, according to the official Belarusian BelTa news service. However, no images have yet emerged of him there. Allowing Prigozhin in Belarus raises questions about how he can be contained. What happens next with Wagner, meanwhile, particularly in Africa, is something the Pentagon said it is keeping an eye on.
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Lukashenko said his first round of discussions with Prigozhin “was spoken for 30 minutes in swear language."
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“A significant part of nuclear weapons have already been brought to Belarus,” Lukashenko said, according to the Belarusian Defense Ministry’s (MoD) Telegram channel. “The Poles and others believe that Wagner will guard nuclear weapons and so on. Wagner will not protect any nuclear weapons. They will be guarded there, and guarded today, since a part of the nuclear weapons (I won’t say how many), most of them have already been brought to Belarus. Russians and Belarusians are guarding.”
Självklart är det mesta bättre än när det feta skurken själv står och lägger ut texten:Enceladus skrev: ↑onsdag 28 juni 2023 0:31Belarus Wants Prigozhin’s ‘Wagnerites’ To Train Its Armydr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑tisdag 27 juni 2023 23:43 Och såhär "analyserar" den feta skurken Lukasjenko situationen: Lukashenko calls to cool down after Wagner situation, turn page
Sedan pratar han en del strunt om de kärnvapen han har "fått": Belarus to work out procedure for using tactical nukes in face of aggression
The War Zone har en bättre artikel om mötet mellan de två råskinnen - och struntpratet om kärnvapen.The War Zone skrev:“Yes, indeed, he is in Belarus today,” Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko said Tuesday during a speech after a military promotion ceremony, according to the official Belarusian BelTa news service. However, no images have yet emerged of him there. Allowing Prigozhin in Belarus raises questions about how he can be contained. What happens next with Wagner, meanwhile, particularly in Africa, is something the Pentagon said it is keeping an eye on.
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Lukashenko said his first round of discussions with Prigozhin “was spoken for 30 minutes in swear language."
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“A significant part of nuclear weapons have already been brought to Belarus,” Lukashenko said, according to the Belarusian Defense Ministry’s (MoD) Telegram channel. “The Poles and others believe that Wagner will guard nuclear weapons and so on. Wagner will not protect any nuclear weapons. They will be guarded there, and guarded today, since a part of the nuclear weapons (I won’t say how many), most of them have already been brought to Belarus. Russians and Belarusians are guarding.”
Russian General Knew About Mercenary Chief’s Rebellion Plans, U.S. Officials Saydr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑lördag 24 juni 2023 11:00 Generalsbusen Sergej Vladimirovitj Surovikin tycker i alla fall att detta ska lösas fredligt. Surovikin är förmodligen den mest kompetenta av de ryska generalerna, till skillnad från den försupne Gerasimov:
Surovikin kan ligga pyrt till om det visar sig att han samarbetade med Prigozjin. Å andra sidan är han knappast ensam, och USA kan försöka vilseleda Putin.The New York Times skrev:A senior Russian general had advance knowledge of Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plans to rebel against Russia’s military leadership, according to U.S. officials briefed on American intelligence on the matter, which has prompted questions about what support the mercenary leader had inside the top ranks.
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Mr. Putin must now decide, officials say, whether he believes that General Surovikin helped Mr. Prigozhin and how he should respond.
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“Surovikin is a decorated general with a complex history,” said Dara Massicot, a senior policy researcher at the RAND Corporation. “He is said to be respected by the soldiers and viewed as competent.”
Kan Putin fås att tro att hans mest kompetenta generaler är västerländska agenter?i skrev:The former US intelligence official said the Prigozhin debacle had forced Russia to come to the table and speak with the Western countries over the war in Ukraine.
“The events of the past 48 hours have opened a crack in diplomacy,” they said. “This plane coming to the US may just be a result of that.”
A serving UK intelligence officer working with the UK Government believes it is likely the plane is bringing Russian representatives to the US for diplomatic talks. The official told i the US needs to “hammer home the point” that the West played no part in the saga.
Grova våldsbrottslingar - möjligen med PTSD från kriget i Ukraina - löper amok på Rysslands gator. Samtidigt är polisen rädd för att misskreditera armén...CBS News skrev:In Kaliningrad, a man was arrested in the sexual assault of an 8-year-old girl after taking her from her mother, according to a local media report and one of the girl's relatives.
The man had approached the mother and bragged about his prison time and his Wagner service in Ukraine, according to the relative, who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity out of safety concerns. The relative asked: "How many more of them will return soon?"
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In its recruiting, Wagner usually offered convicts six-month contracts, according to media reports and rights groups. Then they can return home, unlike regular soldiers, who can't terminate their contracts and leave service as long as Putin's mobilization decree remains in effect. It wasn't immediately clear, however, whether these terms will be honored after Prigozhin's unsuccessful mutiny.
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Some convicts who are caught committing crimes after returning home sometimes try to turn the tables on police by accusing them of discrediting those who fought in Ukraine — now a serious crime in Russia, she said.
Asked if that deters those in law enforcement, Romanova said: "You bet. A prosecutor doesn't want to go to prison for 15 years."
Är det någon som trodde något annat? Putin misskrediterar Ryssland mer än Wagnergruppen...Meduza skrev:According to Putin, maintaining the entire private military company from May 2022 to May 2023 cost the Russian budget 86.3 billion rubles ($1.01 billion). He also said the government allocated an additional 110 billion rubles ($1.29 billion) for insurance payments to Wagner Group fighters.
The Russian president also said that “the owner” of the company Concord Group, referring to Yevgeny Prigozhin, earned about 80 billion rubles ($937.6 million) “from the state” during the same period by supplying food to the Russian military.
Är Putins Ryssland på väg att bli en autarki? Det gick inte så bra förra gången...The Telegraph skrev:A report published by Russia’s Yegor Gaidar Institute for Economic Policy has argued that understaffing in the country represents “a deep and long-term problem” that is holding back the country’s growth with worker shortages now meaning “there is simply no one to produce” in their place.
Goldman’s Grafe says the Wagner mutiny will make things worse. “The first response could be that the army intensifies its search for conscripts and volunteers amid a very tight labour market,” he says.
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In his view, what is likely to happen is the economic players who are aligned to the Russian security forces known as siloviki will “double down on arguments that the state needs more control everywhere”.
“I expect consolidation across key industries and have for a while but while my previous timeline was that, in three to four years, there will be only a few major metals companies and only one oil company - Rosneft - this could be sped up as a result.”
Nya uppgifter gör gällande att Putin inte vågar sparka Sjojgu, även om han skulle vilja göra det. Däremot hänger andra löst, inte minst general Surovikin.Daily Mail skrev:One theory is that General Sergei 'Armageddon' Surovikin is under interrogation over a plot to oust defence minister Sergei Shoigu amid a hunt to purge the enemies within.
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Meanwhile, a separate report said Putin was too scared to fire his 'extremely dangerous' defence minister, fearing him as a direct rival.
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'Shoigu is extremely dangerous in the event of resignation, due to his knowledge, the huge number of people loyal to him in leadership positions, and the presence of levers of influence … in the Kremlin,' said the channel's source.
Shoigu has served longer in the Russian government than Putin, and knows where bodies are buried.
Putins styrkor lade ner sina vapen när Wagnergruppens krigare marscherade mot Moskva. Rybar skriver att utrensningar väntar. Meduzas källor håller med:Reuters skrev:Putin initially vowed to crush the mutiny, comparing it to the wartime turmoil that ushered in the revolution of 1917 and then a civil war, but hours later a deal was clinched to allow Prigozhin and some of his fighters to go to Belarus.
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Putin used the same Russian verb in 1999 about Chechen militants, vowing to "wipe out them out in the shithouse", remarks that became a widely quoted emblem of his severe persona.
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The Belarusian leader also said that his own army could benefit from the experience of Wagner troops who, according to a deal struck with the Kremlin, are now free to move to Belarus.
Tydligen finns det många som Putin inte kan lita på. Den stora vinnaren av utrensningarna blir förstås Ukraina. Kofman tror att Wagner fokuserar på Afrika.Meduza skrev:Meduza’s sources added that the rebellion weakens Putin’s position: “He was unable to get down to Prigozhin’s level, but he was nowhere to be found after yesterday’s national address. He’s the first in command, and takes control when necessary. He shouldn’t make Lukashenko the public face and allow Russia’s security officials [siloviki] to lead negotiations.”
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One of Meduza’s sources believes that Putin will now try to consolidate power, and that the number of attempts by Russia’s elites to “restructure the hierarchy” will only increase.
Nä, Sjojgu har ju varit med (alltför) länge. Det är hans enda tillgång, faktiskt. Att skulle utgöra ett direkt "hot" mot Putin låter däremot mindre sannolikt. Bl.a. är Sjojgu inte etnisk ryss utan tillhör minoritetsfolket tuviner (ett turkfolk, även om Putin aldrig skulle låta honom träffa Erdogan)Enceladus skrev: ↑onsdag 28 juni 2023 12:13 Russia's General 'Armageddon' vanishes amid suspicion he is being interrogated about prior knowledge of Wagner's mutiny in first sign Putin's purge has begun
Nya uppgifter gör gällande att Putin inte vågar sparka Sjojgu, även om han skulle vilja göra det. Däremot hänger andra löst, inte minst general Surovikin.Daily Mail skrev:One theory is that General Sergei 'Armageddon' Surovikin is under interrogation over a plot to oust defence minister Sergei Shoigu amid a hunt to purge the enemies within.
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Meanwhile, a separate report said Putin was too scared to fire his 'extremely dangerous' defence minister, fearing him as a direct rival.
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'Shoigu is extremely dangerous in the event of resignation, due to his knowledge, the huge number of people loyal to him in leadership positions, and the presence of levers of influence … in the Kremlin,' said the channel's source.
Shoigu has served longer in the Russian government than Putin, and knows where bodies are buried.
Stalin återinförde medaljer och gradbeteckningar under kriget för att göra soldater och befäl glada och stolta.dr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑onsdag 28 juni 2023 13:15 Fast han spöar ju inte den här killen:
Lägg märke till att det mesta av kamrat Brezjnevs medaljer här är sk. släpspännen, dvs. tygband som markerar medaljernas plats när medaljer eller andra insignier är olämpliga i mer vardagliga sammanhang. På så sätt hålls också ryggen alltid fri!
Ja, det är normal uniformskutym. Sveriges överbefälhavare, flygvapengeneralen Micael Bydén har ju fått en del utmärkelser:Lennart Petersen skrev: ↑onsdag 28 juni 2023 18:09 Att använda släpspänne som ersättning för medaljer är ju normalt även i Sverige har man många medaljer är det obekvämt att hänga på sig hela batteriet.
Russian General Arrested Following Wagner Mutiny – MT Russiandr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑lördag 24 juni 2023 11:00 Generalsbusen Sergej Vladimirovitj Surovikin tycker i alla fall att detta ska lösas fredligt. Surovikin är förmodligen den mest kompetenta av de ryska generalerna, till skillnad från den försupne Gerasimov:
Sergey Surovikin calls on Wagner PMC to resolve problems peacefully, not to aid enemy
Det skulle inte vara första gången som Surovikin blir arresterad. Nu får han väl sälja korv i det ökända Lefortovo istället. McFaul kommenterar händelsen:The Moscow Times skrev:Russian General Sergei Surovikin has been arrested, The Moscow Times' Russian service reported Wednesday, citing two sources close to the Defense Ministry who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
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Earlier Wednesday, pro-war military blogger Vladimir Romanov said Surovikin was detained Sunday, the day after Prigozhin's aborted mutiny.
Romanov claimed that Surovikin is now being held in Moscow's Lefortovo detention center.
Putin freezes out hardliners after Wagner mutinyMichael McFaul skrev:Obviously waiting for further confirmation, but very big news if true. Remember Putin named Surovikin to command Russian forces in Ukraine & then soon removed him, replacing him with Gerasimov. Was reporting at the time that soldiers were disappointed with that decision. Wonder what they are thinking now?
Putin måste väl ha känt till att Surovikin var delaktig i Augustikuppen? Däremot tackar Ukraina för Putins utrensningar av de mest kompetenta generalerna.Financial Times skrev:Vladimir Putin has moved to shake up Russia’s security services in the wake of the Wagner group’s failed insurrection, rewarding loyalists with promotions and freezing out figures sympathetic to the paramilitary organisation’s leader Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Sergei Surovikin, a senior Russian general known to have a good relationship with Prigozhin, has not been seen since recording a hostage-style video in the early hours of Saturday morning as the mutiny began, according to several people familiar with the matter.
The unexplained absence of one of the most prominent commanders in Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine comes as Putin seeks to restore order and re-establish control over the security services after the first coup attempt in Russia in three decades, said the people.
själv har jag i alla fall medaljen NOR med rätt att lägga till titeln N.O.R , i tjänstematrikeln står Gm.dr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑onsdag 28 juni 2023 21:16 [
Ingen av dessa herrar kommer emellertid i närheten av kamrat Brezjnev. Han tilldelade sig själv väl i stort sett alla utmärkelser som fanns i Sovjetunionen.
Det är svårt att investera i Ryssland när ingen vet hur landet kommer att se ut när Putin dör.Reuters skrev:"With the development of the current situation and the trend of the war...(China) should further adjust its position on Russia and Ukraine, make its attitude clearer, and decisively stand on the side of the victors of history," he wrote in Chinese-language Singaporean newspaper Lianhe Zaobao.
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"Should Russia lose the war or see changes in the domestic leadership, it will create huge uncertainties for Chinese investors," said Michal Meidan, head of China energy research at The Oxford Institute for Energy Studies.
He said the Chinese government also seemed to be exercising caution, pointing out that Beijing had not yet signed a deal for a major new gas pipeline connecting the countries despite a push from Moscow.
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"Beijing now has more reasons to have more reservations and to become more transactional in its dealings with Putin's Russia," said Wen-Ti Sung, a political scientist at the Australian National University.
"There's no point making long-term investment in someone who may not credibly survive into the long-term."
Det är inte heller lätt att vara en militär stormakt utan en stark ekonomi. Det hjälper inte att Turkiet ångrar sitt val...BulgarianMilitary.com skrev:Serbia is enhancing its ground forces with Russian equipment, but its air defenses and combat aviation’s future are sensitive topics. Both Serbia and the West remember the intense NATO bombardment and the subsequent losses, including two stealth fighters.
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Rumors about Serbia’s acquisition of the S-400 system spiked when it was used in exercises in Serbia in 2019. The S-400 is a key part of Russian and Belarusian air defenses, with over 60 regiments in the Russian Air Force. Its production capacity enables it to equip several battalions annually.
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Despite potential financial solutions, political pressure from the European Union and threats of economic sanctions from the United States discouraged Serbia from the deal. U.S. Representative Matthew Palmer warned Serbia of sanctions for intending to acquire S-400s, backed by the U.S.’s CAATSA, which threatens sanctions on clients for Russian military hardware since 2017. Serbia’s President Vucic stated that his government had no plans to purchase the systems.
Som sagt, den som lever får se.Euromaidan Press skrev:The possibility of sending long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine is high, US Senator from Idaho, a member of the Republican Party, James E. Risch, said in his interview with the Voice of America.
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A bipartisan resolution calling on the Biden administration to immediately transfer ATACMS to Ukraine has already passed the US House Committee on Foreign Affairs. ATACMS for Ukraine is also mentioned in the House of Representatives version (H. RES. 488) of the US Defense Budget bill.
On 29 May, commenting on Russia’s increasing attacks on Kyiv, US President Joe Biden said that providing ATACMS missiles to Ukraine was “still in play.”
Ukraine names new head of state weapons company to push reforms, lift supplies
Ukroboronprom verkar i alla fall få en ambitiös ledare!Reuters skrev:The appointment of Herman Smetanin, who has been serving as head of the Kharkiv Malyshev Plant in northeast Ukraine, as the new general director of Ukroboronprom is part of a broader transformation of the key industry, officials said.
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"The newly appointed general director faces three main tasks: to increase the production of ammunition and military equipment, build an effective anti-corruption infrastructure in the company, and transform Ukroboronprom," said Oleksander Kamyshyn, Minister for Ukraine's Strategic Industries.
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Kamyshyn praised Smetanin, 31, as a young and progressive leader who quickly rose from being an engineer to head a huge company producing tanks and other armoured vehicles. Smetanin was born in Kharkiv, Ukraine's industrial centre in the east, and worked at several machine-building and tank plants.
Ja, det är förfärligt så det har blivit, och på bara drygt 20 år. Det börjar bli trångt vid vapentillverkarnas bord och fler och fler länder tror sig kunna göra en hacka på att exportera vapen. Problemet är bara att världen inte blir tryggare eller fredligare för det. Rustningsspiralen blir ett självspelande piano, och utmynnar till sist i en storkonflikt - ungefär som upptakten till och utbrottet av WW1.
Nej, Prigozjin har en trollfabrik i S:t Petersburg. Dessa resurser används nu mot Putin:dr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑lördag 26 februari 2022 17:13 Ja, allt är ju förstås relativt. Att det cyberkrigas frisk just nu är ju uppenbart - på alla nivåer. Vladimir Vladimirovitj har ju (bl.a.) en trollfabrik i S:t Petersburg
Har Putin skapat ett monster som har vänt sig mot sin skapare? Kan detta vara en hämnd för arresteringen av Surovikin?Cybernews skrev:Dozor-Teleport, a Russian satellite communications provider used by the country’s Ministry of Defense and security services, was supposedly hit by hackers aligned with the private military corporation (PMC) Wagner.
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According to Herm1t, Dozor-Teleport is used by Russia’s Ministry of Defense, ships of the Northern Fleet, the Federal Security Service (FSB), Rosatom, and other organizations. The network is also used by users in remote areas, such as tankers of Russia’s energy companies like Gazprom.
De flesta kan nog se att det där skrevs i en annan tid. Men Enceladus-kollektivet har väl avdelat något att sitta och lusläsa alla inlägg i trådarna för att försöka hitta något att klippa sönder och citatförfalska,Enceladus skrev: ↑torsdag 29 juni 2023 20:21Nej, Prigozjin har en trollfabrik i S:t Petersburg. Dessa resurser används nu mot Putin:dr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑lördag 26 februari 2022 17:13 Ja, allt är ju förstås relativt. Att det cyberkrigas frisk just nu är ju uppenbart - på alla nivåer. Vladimir Vladimirovitj har ju (bl.a.) en trollfabrik i S:t Petersburg
Det ansluter - fastän inte lika explicit - till Arkadij Babtjenkos uppfattning.SvD skrev:Efter den alltmer kaotiska utvecklingen av kriget i Ukraina har världen närmat sig en farlig fas. Ett krig mellan Ryssland och Nato, liksom mellan Kina och USA, är inte längre uteslutet.