Diskussionen handlar om vätgas, inte förnybara energikällor. Som bekant framställs enbart en promille av all vätgas genom elektrolys. Det är förstås möjligt att just dessa tåg råkar använda denna promille, men då tvingas verksamheter där batterier inte är ett alternativ att använda smutsig vätgas, inklusive blå vätgas:dr Cassandra Nojdh skrev: ↑lördag 20 september 2025 9:08 Timbrohantlangaren Christan Sandströms skriverier tar jag lätt på - alla vet högerblockets inställning till förnybara energikällor, en del av kulturkriget.
Vem förespråkar detta om inte gaslobbyn, med Tyskland i spetsen? De gröna gör motstånd, men nu verkar den tyska gaslobbyn ha hittat en allierad i Trump.Energy Science & Engineering skrev:Hydrogen is often viewed as an important energy carrier in a future decarbonized world. Currently, most hydrogen is produced by steam reforming of methane in natural gas (“gray hydrogen”), with high carbon dioxide emissions. Increasingly, many propose using carbon capture and storage to reduce these emissions, producing so-called “blue hydrogen,” frequently promoted as low emissions. We undertake the first effort in a peer-reviewed paper to examine the lifecycle greenhouse gas emissions of blue hydrogen accounting for emissions of both carbon dioxide and unburned fugitive methane. Far from being low carbon, greenhouse gas emissions from the production of blue hydrogen are quite high, particularly due to the release of fugitive methane. For our default assumptions (3.5% emission rate of methane from natural gas and a 20-year global warming potential), total carbon dioxide equivalent emissions for blue hydrogen are only 9%-12% less than for gray hydrogen. While carbon dioxide emissions are lower, fugitive methane emissions for blue hydrogen are higher than for gray hydrogen because of an increased use of natural gas to power the carbon capture. Perhaps surprisingly, the greenhouse gas footprint of blue hydrogen is more than 20% greater than burning natural gas or coal for heat and some 60% greater than burning diesel oil for heat, again with our default assumptions. In a sensitivity analysis in which the methane emission rate from natural gas is reduced to a low value of 1.54%, greenhouse gas emissions from blue hydrogen are still greater than from simply burning natural gas, and are only 18%-25% less than for gray hydrogen. Our analysis assumes that captured carbon dioxide can be stored indefinitely, an optimistic and unproven assumption. Even if true though, the use of blue hydrogen appears difficult to justify on climate grounds.
Overcoming the barriers of hydrogen storage with a low-temperature hydrogen battery
Sandström har inte fel när han säger att "universums minsta molekyl är svår att lagra, kapsla in eller transportera". Väte kan behöva bindas i andra molekyler...Science Tokyo skrev:One of the most pressing challenges facing the use of hydrogen is its storage, which typically requires extremely low temperatures (−252.8 °C) and high pressures (350 to 700 bar). Instead of storing hydrogen as a gas or liquid, a more effective approach is to store it in solid materials such as magnesium hydride (MgH2), which has high theoretical storage capacity. This material can be integrated into a battery-like system where, instead of only moving electrons, hydrogen itself is stored and released during charging and discharging.